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You concluded on such an empty observation, I felt I had to reply here, Techy.

"'Christians' do not support, 'Absolute Liberty' or we would have attained it by now. eh?" Did you know that Jesus addressed your notion directly?

Then said Jesus to those Jews that believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. - John 8:31

Messiah was teaching new disciples, who were from an intact historical AND biblical lineage: aligned with his word, then and there: that CONTINUATION in his word would prove who they were, what they would then know, and how THAT TRUTH would make them, eh?

The problem isn't that that freedom can't be found here. I dare say it is the only real place to start and actually find it. Rather, it is that continuation in his word has been abandoned by so many professing Christians; if they even bothered to read them for themselves, and pray about their implications and applications: that causes observers, like you, HVACTech, to ponder if the very faith He gave us to follow, isn't just some cleaver ruse, rather than real true life.

"If you want facts, you need to follow Pete Santilli"

http://www.acalltopaul.com/comment/3397#comment-3397

Thanks for the vid

I say this before my predictive reading of their tomes. It's not that they aren't well taught by history, and other political science dynamics: but what Rand did, by his effective use of available social media to pose a real dialog with the people who cared enough to access him, essentially made him the one-man winner of the real debate as to who we ought trust with that delegated authority.

If Dr. Paul were to posture himself accordingly, it would be to ask them how his participation in any future top-card debate events might be worth the sacrifice of his uniquely-gained, popular advantage. Playing off their debate in real time, without commercial considerations served; showed all TV/Cable gatekeepers just how badly their mighty media mind-lock is broken!

Since Martin Luther King Day is our state-sponsored celebration of the prophet they slew for his stand, perhaps this song might be appropriate posting here:  [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-rITHSrbfg]

He presented a more paleo-Democrat message, where the other wacko's where pushing Communism. He did state the government must 'absolutely' get a warrant before gaining access to the privacy of Americans. I would never vote for him, but he's way better then Killary or the Bern .

He's real good at threatening people, been arrested many times, and always skates. I think Jack Blood and Mark Dice made one about 5yrs ago. The difference being AJ's father is a wealthy connected dentist, and Santilli was on his own. They both have some good points, when verifiable?  But, neither can be trusted with their analysis, which is exaggerated and/or misdirection.