Is a Call To Paul part of the Liberty movement? Why didn't we get the memo?

Just noticed your compliment and I humbly say thank you to you and all the others who came to this place, PL and the DP long before I did. It is my great hope that we can get to the readership levels that DP had when it was really cranking.

But, I hope that can happen not just as result of the promotion of the next Liberty presidential candidate, or any one man or woman, but rather due to the very important concept of Liberty itself and what we have already lost.

So that we can awake others to the stripping of our liberties due to the ongoing and ramping up of the surveillance and police state, the great cost of our unconstitutional and failed foreign policy and the reliance and promotion of the Welfare State and Big Government as a means to all ends.

And yes, I plan to invite others with my gentle, yet constant, nudging.

In Liberty to you Izzy and all the other freedom lovers wherever you are.

I have been involved in the real liberty movement for almost a decade, beginning in 2007 Ron Paul campaign and I can tell you for a fact that the political machine has been working overtime to supplant and corrupt the movement almost the entire time.

These are but some of the culprits in the attempted overthrow of the liberty movement. There are many players but I will focus attention to those who seem to speak to liberty and those who pander to the liberty community:

• Ted Cruz
• Henry Kissinger
• Jeb Bush Alex Jones (yes him too)
• Donald Trump
• Bernie Sanders
• Glen Beck

To mention but a few. The liberty community has been infiltrated. I will speak more on this later. The two political powers have almost unlimited capital and media counterparts for maximum effectiveness. They know that Ron Paul is the real deal and what he taught and informed the people about is their nemesis. Trump, Cruz, etc, etc are all pawns in this little game of divide and conquer. Trump made fun of Ron Paul all through his campaigns., now trump says he admires Ron Paul but now makes fun of Rand Paul. Ted Cruz says he is the rightful heir to the Ron Paul supporters-lol. This is all done to divide the liberty movement into factions so that it is inneffective. State levels are also corrupt but their is more hope for constitutional victories there. Always remember and do your own investigation, when you hear trump, Cruz or the lot of them talk about liberty and the constitution, it is because they are a part of the larger political machine (knowingly or unknowingly) that works in tandem and on varying levels in operations to redirect the energy of the real liberty movement (ie those who want constitutional government, not anarchy) toward neocon ideology. Lies. Debt. War.

The machine knows that they have a problem on their hands when people demand returning to constitutional principles. They must mislead as many as possible into thinking that they may see change through this candidate or that candidate. That is why you hear so much "real talk" coming from the candidates snd you hear constitutional rhetoric.. Because they know that is what the public wants to hear and that is how they rope them in. The end result is not constitutional reforms though., it is more of the same under a different name. Make no mistake, there is not one constitutional candidate in this race. It's a a classicly staged, sophisticated ( but comprehensible) set up. No matter who you choose, you will get the same agenda to varying degrees. Ron Paul was honest and a righteous beacon of truth in a very corrupt system. All you have to do is educate yourself (go back and watch Ron Paul's videos and follow the rabbit trails with discernment) and compare what he says to what the candidates say, and compare Ron Paul's constitutional solutions to the phony solutions proposed by the corrupt politicians & you will see who is genuine, and who is telling the truth. All great lies are mixed with truth. They is how they get undiscernibg people to follow. Trump and Cruz have been installed as the renegades of the GOP, but nothing could be further from the truth. Trump, Cruz, Hillary and Bernie (and yes the rest of them) are on the exact same team but they would never admit it obviously. Their handlers are cut from the same cloth, same ideas, same aids that come from the same think tanks. Ron and Rand Paul's ideas are a threat to the system and as was stated earlier, the system has enormous amounts of capital and media publicity to create their desired storylines and influence public opinion. So if the thing is a set up then how can we get truth or know who to trust? Ron Paul was right on this as well when he said:

Educate yourself about natural law and where rights come from Be involved in your state and local government which is still likely corrupt but easier to combat and more effective Understand the constitution and bill of rights (it's not difficult to do and once learned it is ideological ammo to help you discern who is lying to you and who is not) learning thus will also help you with understanding the issues Look at voting records and hold people accountable for their campaign "promises". Don't excuse them when they conveniently do the opposite of what they've public ally said they would do. Liars who become politicians are still liars, just with power. Don't fall for the tricks. Don't let your life and work hinge on presidential elections. Real change always comes from the grassroots upwards. We will write more on this later. I hope this helps you in your quest for real constitutional reform in our lifetime. And remember " don't steal, the government hates competition".

All valid points, and for the record, I'm not in disagreement. However, the net effect is that we are scattered three sheets to the wind not coalescing behind a single candidate. Maybe this can turn into a good thing eventually as the ideas of that original Ron Paul Revolution now permeate their way through all of the various parties and circles. Take Democratic Congresswoman from Hawaii, Tulsi Gabbard, for example. When you listen to her foreign policy it sounds like it's influenced by Ron Paul's F.P. of Non-Interventionism. She just stepped down recently from the DNC to support Bernie in fact. In the event Bernie is elected, she would most likely be a positive influence being a combat veteran who is reluctant to send troops into combat. One day Trump talks like "I would invade Iran, take over their country, and sell off their oil.", and the next he's all like "We don't need to be the policemen of the world. Let Russia deal with it. They are there now. I think Putin would like me. I'm a nice guy. What can I say? People like me.", (regarding ISIS in Syria, plus a little humor.) Ted sometimes says the same thing on interventionism, but he's not believable. He co-sponsors Audit the Fed, but doesn't bother to show up for the vote. That Revolution did have some positive impact that is still being felt here and there today. I think different parts of that message will be felt in different areas for a long time to come.

I hope things are going well for you these days and that you are happy. I've certainly had better of late, so believe me I'm no paragon of joy and happiness, lol! I'm working on it though :)

he thought ron and rand had a family business going.  I disagreed.  What did nystrom have going?  a business in which he made a lot of money and then he left.  You see?  Familiarity breeds contempt.  They divide the liberty movement in this way.  Being familiar to something should not breed contempt for it but wisdom.  Human nature tells us to be tired of that thing that we believed in but did not deliver the goods as we thought it might, or should.   Ron Paul may have made money doing what he has always done, but who cares?  Why does this matter?  If you could fight for liberty and make a living doing it would that not be a dream come true for many?  None the less its not about rand or ron and I get that BUT you must understand that the things set in motion by a squeaky congressman from texas are not small events.  They speak to what people are feeling now.  Thats why you see candidates like trump and cruz copying them.  8 Years ago they were laughing at Ron Paul.  NOW, TODAY, THIS ELECTION, they try and steal the ideas they made fun of years ago.  That is politics.  Liars and cheats.  There will always be a remnant of people who really understand the system and what is happening though, no matter the efforts of the political machine to install their chosen candidates who seem to speak to the peoples grievances but are insincere.  Vote fore who you think is the right candidate for liberty but dont make excuses for them once they betray their word.  It happens every election cycle. Its time to end the BS

Friends of Liberty are always hated by tyrants. When asked a reason for their grievance, or open attack: authoritarians will always blame Liberty-lovers for their unwillingness to give in to their dictates, and conform to their demands: they just won't phrase it that candidly.

Herding Mountain Lions is whole lot harder than caging kittens. Liberty has an intrinsic worth that doesn't barter at all with lesser things,: unless those who hold it are tricked, or coerced, into it.

When Liberty is promoted, tyranny must oppose it. They just can't abide freedom's economy to compare with their bankruptcy of ideas. This race is still all about Liberty vs tyranny, despite not having the people we'd ideally wish were running.