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ecard71's picture
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I strictly went by this on the OP: "If hundreds of people had downloaded my software, then yes. This could indeed be the case."

Appreciate you pointing that out for me.

I STILL STAND WITH RAND!

deacon's picture
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" Multiply this by a few people and there are hundreds of heavy requests a second, causing all issues being logged on the server.  To me,it reads a few people,with hundreds of requests a second...by a few who downloaded that program

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ecard71's picture
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The only issue I see is, I remember Ron Paul filling 7,500 - 10,000 people in CA inside a tennis arena at UCLA.  http://mic.com/articles/6513/ron-paul-draws-record-breaking-crowd-at-ucl... and also filling up a stadium in Tampa, FL. That was years ago and not many people heard about it.

Bernie Sanders is another that has recently been filling up arenas and not many people know about him. And though these are "thousands" of people, it still pales in comparison to the "millions" of debate viewers.

The plus side is that independent viewership IS growing and more and more people are becoming aware. Factor that in with Rand FINALLY calling out the msm & the polls as manipulative and worthless gauges (on their own shows), it might just work. But at this early point in the game, I just don't see Rand getting 10,000 or even 1,000 people to show up.

I still like your idea though!

I STILL STAND WITH RAND!

ecard71's picture
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as Ron Paul pointed out years ago, HOW MUCH of that 1.5 billion actually goes to feeding the hungry and doesn't wind up elsewhere?

I STILL STAND WITH RAND!

ecard71's picture
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his view as well. It's only fair if you ask me. There was an assumption made. While neither you, nor myself may blame Enemy, I am very sure MANY members would simply take Michael's message as the gospel truth that "Hundreds" of users used the program, in effect, causing the preemptive shutdown. Where does that lead?

Just my take on it.

I STILL STAND WITH RAND!

ecard71's picture
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"Maybe I am just cynical but from my perspective to not consider the possibility of dirty tricks seems naive at this stage of the game."

Agreed. Everything is possible. Question everything.

I posted a reply of other possibilities. Or it can be just as simple as Michael's message stated, "stuff just happens". Who knows?

I STILL STAND WITH RAND!

ATruepatriot's picture
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To make this effort and help everyone out is huge and deserves the upmost appreciation and respect. :)

"Jack of all Trades...Master of None" But forever learning more!

ecard71's picture
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I do not blame you in any way shape or form. Your intentions were noble and kind in trying to help others when it was rudely denied elsewhere (There's nothing wrong with saying "NO", but it doesn't have to be said in such a mean spirited way).

Secondly, it appears you were responsible in taking the precautions necessary before sharing it. It's funny you mentioned emalvini, because I was going to jokingly suggest it were his posts alone that brought the entire site down (thanks for ruining it enemy). LOL

Now onto my questions;

I was one of the users that downloaded your program (Windows 7), and though I was successful in downloading my content, it's pretty unreadable. You mentioned you later put up a version for Windows 7 users. Did you take those same precautions, or were they not necessary? Is it possible that just the Windows 7 users alone infinitely multiplied the errors. I ask this only, because I remember about 10 years ago I was having errors (don't think it was a virus) that caused my system to open up a new window continuously about every second on its own until it crashed (I had XP at the time), or I used "Ctrl+Alt+Del".

Is it possible that someone could have tried to modify your program be it because they had a Windows 7 program & thought they could fix it, because they thought that maybe there was a way to download EVERYTHING & not just THEIR posts/comments (maybe they were unaware of web crawlers), or (and I hate to say it, but possible) someone maliciously altered your program? I ask this because I know people download fully licensed programs all the time, and then change & tweak them leaving them with a "free" fully licensed program.

The "Hundreds of users" also puzzles me, because if I were to judge from both "goodbye" posts that Michael put up, most of the people on those and other threads were saying things like "it's just a forum", and "what's the big deal, they're only words, just move on". Aside from archiving the site, I only saw one or two members asking if there was a way to save/download their posts. Keeping you at your word that there were only 10 downloads, where did the "Hundreds" of users come from? My guess is that's very possibly just an assumption on their part, barring of course someone was able to manipulate your program and maybe hack into the site (people have claimed their passwords have been hacked before).

In conclusion, though it did not personally work for me as I'd hoped, I do want to thank you for your kind intentions. It was very nice of you to take time to help others out.

 

I STILL STAND WITH RAND!

JacciC's picture
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It's the amount of money we spend (~$1.5 billion) on Food for Peace title 2 grants that we have been spending on since 1954!! All that money leaves the country in the form of NGO's and other gov't agencies to end world hunger. Now I know it sucks that people are starving all over the world, but should we be doing this at all? I think not.

deacon's picture
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Not from where I sit,I still get message from MN,Hopefully though,I will get to grab a few posts before it is done for good

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And you can log in.

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gregroberts's picture
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The Atlas Shrugged movies are a  terrible place to start if you want to learn about Ayn Rand's novels, I would suggest reading "The Fountainhead" first, then "Atlas Shrugged", followed by "Anthem",  The movies don't do justice to the ideas in the novels.

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We are the remnant who have hung on thru all the changes.

It's a shame though that every time this happens we lose a lot of good Paul people maybe never to see them again.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed and over-regulated and overrun by bureaucrats - the founders would be ashamed." -Ron Paul

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Goons gonna goon

pawnstorm12's picture
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I did see Michael's message just now.

I felt a little at ease to know what caused the issue.

Maybe he can work it out so that we can get back on there long enough to archive some of our content.

Merry Christmas to you Enemy of the State.  Perhaps many ex DP'ers have a new home here.

This is the best I've come across.

 

 

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed and over-regulated and overrun by bureaucrats - the founders would be ashamed." -Ron Paul

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