"Omnibus Bill is NOT a Federal Budget - POTUS wins again"

Juniper Fri, 03/23/2018 - 21:51

Ok check this out.  Apparently this Omnibus bill isn't enforceable.  Trump can spend the money or not spend the money and congress has no authority to make him use the money for the items it was allocated for.  Because...its NOT a federal budget which would have been enforcable.

"Jo Ann Powell Neely Gunny says: March 23, 2018 at 7:42 am I seriously do not understand why individuals do not read the entire thread or disregard it.

Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes…. Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice…Here it is..

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…

Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.

This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..

An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them. He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to. And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..

I think our President observed how this happened, year after year. He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.

So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to. Or…not spend it.

Planned Parenthood? What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?

Sanctuary Cities? What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?

Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia? Why yes. There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.

But what could they do about it. Hah.

Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’

done finished…research was done…and it is so very humorous actually….our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall…put anything else you want in it…and those goofballs did.

In this case, as per above….he doesn’t have to spend a dime….because it is not a budget…and even if it was…researched….he could still spend as he please… Congress appropriates….up to the President to spend it…or not….as he pleases..

 

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Ran across this Justin Amash twitter thread today, thought it would be good info here: https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/977725648700690432

 

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       President Trump can literaly make his own budget, (and can either use the guidlines  in the one congress gave him, or just make up his own ideas as to where the money can be spent) for the nation?   Does he know this and if so,...how do you know? 

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He was acting just like Brer Rabbit saying, “I don’t care what you do with me, Brer Fox” said Brer Rabbit. “Just don’t fling me in that briar patch over there. Roast me, Brer Fox, but don’t fling me in in that briar patch,” said Brer Rabbit."

Trump was effectively saying to the Dems, "PLEASE OH PLEASE DON'T PASS this OMNIBUS BILL"!

Notice how the media made a point of saying he only gets very little for the wall and yet got stuck with this bloated bill.

But then look at this tweet by Trump:

 

As a matter of National Security I've signed the Omnibus Spending Bill. I say to Congress: I will NEVER sign another bill like this again. To prevent this omnibus situation from ever happening again, I'm calling on Congress to give me a line-item veto for all govt spending bills! https://t.co/kYwMk5AE5k

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 23, 2018

Here he make a point of saying this bill was about "National Security" Then he tweets this:

Because of the $700 & $716 Billion Dollars gotten to rebuild our Military, many jobs are created and our Military is again rich. Building a great Border Wall, with drugs (poison) and enemy combatants pouring into our Country, is all about National Defense. Build WALL through M!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 25, 2018

Here he is literally equating building the wall as a matter of "NATIONAL DEFENSE". Now whether you agree with the wall or not is beside the point. The point is, he is going to be using a large chunk of the money that was slotted for the military to build the wall.  He is going to use the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) to build the wall too.

Furthermore, you can bet he is going to slow walk, if not forgo altogether, the funding for planned parenthood and most of all the other liberal programs.  I think a chunk of that money....and I'm not kidding about this.....is going to go for trials for a bunch of government criminals about to get indicted.  If he hadn't have signed this bill, and then the indictments came down, congress would have stonewalled him on the funding needed for investigations and trials that are inevitable.

The way Trump works is that he never fully lets on what he's up to.  He allows the media to think he's stupid so they underestimate him.  The best way to tell what he's up to is to watch him closely and read between the lines.  Oh and be careful if he begins to protest too much.

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He knows :))

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In unvanquishable number!
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you:
Ye are many — they are few!

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Are a false premise to what they call American excepeltilism. Who hold no convictions to the constitution and entangle with foreign affairs on false premises. 

Listen to Dr Ron Paul, it's a good take on current political climate Watch "Ron Paul On Neoconservatism." on YouTube
https://youtu.be/RZIhijE0ZqM

I'll be back for more! Peace!

 

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I do luv me some Ron Paul.   He's my hero on so many levels.  All the self-branded neocons hate Trump so there's that.  We are in a wait and see with Trump right now.  Brokering peace with North Korea and Iran would go a long way in getting us out of the policing the world business. 

Here's to hoping we see better days and a more free America!

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So, we have to trust the government to super pinky swear not to spend this money? Forgive me if I don't hold my breath after all the lies and broken promises from that neocon scum Trump.

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Fair enough.  Trust has been broken hundreds ot times before by those in government.  i don't ask you to trust.  I'm simply pointing out that there is another game afoot.

Time will tell  (and I mean within the next several months) whether this is a different presidency aimed at clearing out the criminal globalists....or if its more of the same.

I guess I'm just saying, keep an open mind and watch carefully.  If I'm right then things will be happening fast.

One way or another, we will know soon.

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I don't deny the possibility of things I can't see, and I'm not privy to Trump's inner thoughts, but I don't see evidence for this interpretation. Time will tell.

 

By when will you feel that the possibility you see will be confirmed or proven wrong?

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I think the report from the Office of the Inspector General will be a bomb shell that reverberates hitting many people.

I think though there is something really bad and indefensible about Hillary that will be coming out soon.  It may be this week or it may be after Easter in April.  I'm unsure of the timing. 

There is a voter fraud shoe to drop yet. I expected that in March but it might also coincide with the OIG report

And there is more than that too....much more

Time line is soon.  It all has to start coming out soon as it's an election year and that plays a part....especially concerning election fraud.

Watch for CEO resignations and people being fired.  Watch for suicides and helicopter crashes.  Watch for people leaving the country and arrests.  A ton has already been happening.  Do some Google searches and see.  Just in the last three months I could fill pages full of significant examples.  This time the people at the very top are in danger of going to jail.  Maybe for the first time ever.   And believe me they are FURIOUS!

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Check out this comment on Ivanka Trump twitter

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So basically you Trump supporters don't understand concepts of Liberty. Small government, consitutional, personal freedoms without subsides that leads to Taxation that steals from personal wealth. TRUMP IS A NEOCON, HE HAS JUST FILLED HIS CABINET WITH SOME OF THE WORSE NEOCONS ON THE CIRCUIT RIGHT NOW! STOP PUTTING YOUR TRUST INTO GOVERNMENT AS A MORAL INSTITUTION. TRUMP HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLANT WITH CAMPAIGN PROMISES TO BRAINWASH THE FEEBILE MINDED! WHAT A WASTE TO SPEND MONEY ON A WALL AND THE MILITARY WHICH IS WAY OVERBLOATED. YET THE TRUMP SUPPORTER WILL BLINDLY TRY TO FIGURE THAT THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN. THIS WHOLE THING WITH TRUMP, RUSSIA,  FAKE NEWS, HILLARY IS A CHARADE ,MENT TO DIVIDE AND CONCOUR AND CONFUSE THE MASSES! IF YOUR AWAKE TO THE BRAINWASHING GEORGE SOROS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND ON TRUMP!

PLUS THIS GIVES US PRESIDENTS CARTE BLANCHE TO SPEND TRILLIONS WITHOUT OVERSIGHT ! PATHETIC! 

HE'LL GET IMPEACHED AND THE TRUMP MINIONS WILL CALL FOR CIVIL WAR!

THE SHAWDOW GOVERNMENT WANTS  MARTIAL LAW. ONCE THE USA  LOOSES ITS POWER(THE POWER OF THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN), THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT WILL STEP IN AND THE MAN OF PERDITION WILL BE REVEALED! 

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I don't like Trump, but we must always distinguish between method and goal. The inability to distinguish these is the problem that Bastiat describes when he says that the socialists say we don't want to help the poor at all. IF Trump is really faking his neoconservatism, supporting him would be ok in the end. Not that I agree with Juniper, but his belief in Trump as a total double plus fakeout isn't prima facie evidence of being anti-liberty.

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I think method matters and end result matters.  I think pretending to be bombastic in order to work up the media toward one direction, and then moving in the opposite direction is all fair in (well maybe not love) but politics. 

Like for instance a week or two ago, he was out there complaining about Jeff Sessions.  But I know he was just putting on a show.  He and sessions are thick as thieves.  The media was all a buzz with "OMG is he going to fire Sessions???  He's gonna fire Sessions!!!"  No he had no intention of firing him.  The complaining was all show used as a device to separate himself from Sessions. 

Low and behold, at the zero hour, Sessions comes out and fires McCabe.  The OIG report was cited as the reason and I think it was.  IMMEDIATELY David Rothschild went nuts over the firing and blamed not only Sessions but Trump personally for the firing.  But because Trump had distanced himself a week before it didn't have much teeth.

 

(1) Donald Trump and Jefferson Sessions are terrible human beings. https://t.co/JQtA0fxwAw

— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) March 17, 2018

(2) Andrew McCabe was fired because Trump & Sessions think it will undermine his testimony about the Trump/Republican obstruction of justice in the Russian probe. But, the firing itself is an obvious attempt to obstruct justice and validates McCabe's importance to truth of matter

— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) March 17, 2018

(3) Both Comey and McCabe were fired, technically, for being too harsh on Clinton. They were. But, both were actually fired because Trump thought it would help obstruct the Russian probe. Comey's firing brought US Mueller and McCabe seems really prepared to fight back as well.

— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) March 17, 2018

(4) Safe to assume that McCabe will sue government, Sessions, etc. It will be public and really damaging to Team Trump/Republicans for both how much they have politicized all levels of civil service and how little they care about actual public servants.

— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) March 17, 2018

(5) Following through on this particularly evil and stupid idea of POTUS Trump may save AG Sessions' job for a few weeks. But, Sessions' legacy is now a mix of being craven sycophant and demonstrating just how fragile "justice" is in our "democracy".

— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) March 17, 2018

Rothschild legit FA-REEKED OUT.  And over what?  McCabe who was retiring anyway?  McCabe who lost his pension over the firing but has 13 million to his name?  Really?  Why on earth should Rothschild care?

 

I'll tell you why!  They are all afraid of what he might say. McCabe is set to be indicted and that guy has threatened to sing.  McCabe is just the tip of the iceberg so there are plenty of rats to rat out.  You want some entertainment?  Go check out the loudest voices of protest about McCabes firing.  Very telling.

>>>>But I digress...  To my first point, misleading the media because they are hostile to you, I have no problem with.  But there is a limit.  He must follow the laws and he MUST work toward bringing us back to a government that abides by constitution.  I know it sounds crazy right now, but I firmly believe when all is said and done, we will have a currency backed by real gold again.  He is giving major clues in that direction.

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I most definitely understand the concepts of Liberty.  I value and long for small government.  I identify as a constitutionalist and am for personal freedoms above all else.

Trump is NOT a Neocon.  Define neocon.  Is it someone who always beats the drum of war?  Is it someone who pretends to be conservative but behaves like a democrat?  Is a neoconservative both Democrats and Republicans who push globalism?  I think a neocon is all those things but Trump doesn’t fit those definitions.  I do agree that he is surrounded by black hats.  I would go so far as to say some are really vile and downright EVIL people. 

I know this: Sessions, Wray, Pompeo and Admiral Rodgers are all confirmed WHITE HATS and are fighting for this country.  The rest I’m unsure of.   

You must understand that this government has been laced with legitimately labeled evil people for a long long time.   There has been a long term goal to use the military and monetary might of America for eventual globalism.  This agenda is so entrenched and part of everyday business in Washington, that it was considered invincible.  We had moved into an accelerated 16 year destruction plan that was to take place under Obama’s last 8 years and the subsequent 8 years promised to Hillary.

During Obama’s 8 years they were setting the stage by installing rogue operators, leaking intelligence, cut funding to the military, take command away from white hat Generals (mass firings), remove good guys from internal government agencies (via Valerie Jarrett), take down the NSA using Snowden (NSA was the only opposition capable of outing CIA), targeting Republicans through IRS harassment, OPEN boarders to cause a destabilization across the country and specifically to bring in MS13 to act as paid mercenaries and assassins (America’s ISIS), build up North Korea’s nuke capability using CIA oversight (Yes NK was controlled by CIA and where do you think Uranium 1 went to?),  stack the Supreme court, deliver planes of cash to Iran for cooperation, and dismantle NASA defense.

During Hillary’s 8 years we would have seen a launching of WWIII.  All the hyperbole about Russia was for a reason.  CIA was running North Korea.  They got a nuke awfully fast didn’t they?  We were going to use that nuke on ourselves (blamed on Russia/NK) as an EMP exploding not on land but overtop the United States sending us into darkness, turmoil and death.  Starving citizens would surrender their guns and themselves into virtual slavery for relief and protection.  Out of all this chaos would come a world government to end all wars?  The plan is actually more detailed than this but let’s keep it brief for now

How do you defeat an enemy within that is so entrenched?  The Liberty movement has been trying for decades upon decades.  The Cabal owns the MEDIA. The Cabal owns the MOVIE INDUSTRY.  The Cabal owns the CIA.  The Cabal owns the FED.  The Cabal is laced through all major industries and across all departments in government.   Do you understand how invasive this infiltration has been????   WELL DO YOU???  How do you defeat them when you can’t get elected?  And even if you are, they threaten you, blackmail you, KILL YOU (Kennedy/Regan) or marginalize you until you are ineffective? 

Like him or not, Trump has been the only one to penetrate this private club.  NO HE IS NOT ONE OF THEM.  Use your discernment.   They have not stopped freaking out since Election Day over a year ago.  Why do you think they are trying so very hard to get him the heck out?  Because they know deep down he’s a patriot interested in the sovereignty of this country.

I want you to understand that I am not blind.  I was very slow in my support of Trump.  But, careful watching has led me to understand that there is a covert operation of patriots that recruited Trump….it was not started by Trump….to take this country back from the criminals.  And put them all in prison for their high crimes and treason.

There are 4,905 new sealed federal indictments from 1/29/17 to 2/28/18

And a further 18,510 new sealed federal indictments entered from 10/30/17 thru 2/28/18

Let me tell you there is some serious swamp cleaning going on even if you can’t yet see it.  There’s going to be a whole lot of criminals, within government and those who helped, in jail soon. And by the way, George Soros is going to be one of those in prison.

The OMNIBUS bill loop hole has been taken advantage of for at least 25 years.  TRUMP didn’t invent it.  He’s been watching Obama use it exclusively for the last 8 years.  I agree that they shouldn’t be doing business this way but frankly, they were not going to fund any efforts of Trumps to clean up Washington.  He used their tools against them.  Maybe NOW they will close that loop hole.

This fight is WAY bigger than you can imagine.  And maybe after all the indictments come down and all the trials are over and the prison doors clang shut, we can set about fixing the system that allowed these people so much power in the first place.  The Shadow Government does NOT want martial law…not with Trump in charge.  The Shadow Government has control over a ton of people….under martial law with Trump at the helm, they will control nothing.

Trump may declare martial law but not before the great crimes and the pending indictments are revealed to the public.  What if you find out that ALL THREE BRANCHES past and present were involved with money laundering, drug and gun running, and HUMAN...specifically child....TRAFFICKING?  What if you got VIDEO PROOF?  What if it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court?  How would we charge these people?  Think about it.

We are already in a Civil War…you just don’t know it yet…. And its way beyond anything we can fight alone behind a keyboard.

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Why specifically do you think Sessions, Wray, Pompeo and General Rodgers are white hats?

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Admiral Rodgers Is a patriot of the highest degree.  Man I hardly know where to start as what ever I say will need to be backed up by evidence if it is to have any merit.  Ok well you know what, Conservative Tree house did an article awhile back that laid out the whole convoluted story.  If you wouldn't mind reading that long article first it would save a lot of time.  Then if you still have questions, I will be glad to fill in the holes or clear up any confusions.  But, Conservative Tree house was ON THE MONEY with this article. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/29/understanding-the-nunes-...

It's a riveting read and full of very important insight on what's going on  Pay close attention to Admiral Mike Rodgers part in all this. 

amazing but this is just part of the crazy stuff going on.   

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OMGosh I Linked to the Wrong Article  This one down here vvvvvv  is the right one.  The other is fine but this one spells out why Admiral Rodgers is a white hat.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa...

sorry about that!  I know, I know its long but really it is an important read that outlines the whole diobolical situation surrounding the election and the transition between the two administrations, and the fall out thereafter.

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squid2112 says:

So, I am hearing rumors (and perhaps Sundance could provide insight) that the reason why Trump is on board with this bill is because it actually does provide him with all of the funding he will ever need for our big beautiful border wall.

Let me explain. Trump just got an additional $80BILLION for defense spending, for this year alone! … that is YUGE! .. and now it is rumored that he is going to spend a chunk of that money on our wall by utilizing the Army Corp of Engineers to build our wall. If this is true, then our Congress is now going to be powerless to stop him from build our bigass beautiful wall the entire distance of the southern border. Not only does he have enough for material costs, he also has enough for additional personnel above the already 37,000+ personnel within the Army Corp of Engineers.

If this is true, this is brilliant and perhaps worth the sacrifice for this particular bill. I am betting this may also play quite well for the next time Congress tries to take up another “omnibus” spending bill. As they say, once bit, twice shy.

This guy has a good point!  After this, there could never be another omnibus bill passed.  IN THE FUTURE, NO ONE IN CONGRESS WILL WANT TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT THIS MUCH POWER. It is a system that has been abused for years by the cabal running the government, and its time that people in congress take responsibilty and pass a real budget.  Personally, I think some big justice is coming down the pike for criminals within the government.  I firmly believe this by all signs I see.   AND IF IT DOES!!  No one is going to approve any money being spent for criminal enterprises.  I think the American public is about to be awoken to the reality of the people running their government.    I know, I know.  It's all been said before.   But this time....THIS TIME! all signs say it's different. 

Source:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/22/white-house-briefing-on-...

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