Who cares about illegal immigration?

Thank you for your input. Glad you could log in by another name. Which brings me to the question. How did you obtain a new name? Was it automatically?

You wrote: "I would like to discuss with the operator"

The operator has been missing for a while and happened right after Lavoy Finicum's murder. Some changes that were made to the "package" software used in this site made the site crash and malfunction as you have experienced. I haven't been able to communicate with the operator for a long time. Requests for a "fix" go unanswered.

You wrote: "We don't grow in a vacuum"

Unlike Daily Paul and Popular Liberty not too many participants comment and or post. Yep, it feels we are in a vacuum. The site for the most part in my observation is suffering slow growth.

I am pretty new at this idea of "Openly" analyzing and discussing what this country is being tortured with so far.

I am very grateful for those that do participate but the site is suffering malnutrition. There's lack of a bubbly abundance of exchange. Sometimes I wonder if the site is ill with the "fake news" surveillance fear virus factor. Attacks on freedom of expression may be the illness that will kill the site at the end. Is that what we want? Or are we failing from promoting the site to make it bubble? Now, that's some responsibility I hadn't thought about.

You wrote: Who cares about legal Immigration?

H1B Legal, illegal vs. NAP and Open Borders: Are the principles of NAP so strict that the health of the economy ignores logic? Does NAP require the Nation to say yes to everything regardless of consequences? Live and let live even if it kills the host? Did I understand your point?

Is mass migration legal or illegal a tool to degrade the "idea" that made this country that once was? Is migration or H1B legality a cancer virus imposed from outside?

Is death to America from within its own borders the poison?

Illegal immigrants are not only those that pick tomatoes. There are many illegals that do construction, will design a building, will treat your ailments, teach reading, math and science or write some cool code without a lic, an H1B visa or citizenship. In that, I do strongly disagree with you.

You wrote: To look outside of the US, when we are struggling as individuals is just laziness on the part of corporations.

This entire scenario, in my opinion is a schizophrenic boogie man that doesn't know what it wants at the end. Is the intended goal to be by itself on top of a mountain looking down at a total destroyed country/world turned into ashes and rubble. That to me is what OPEN BORDERS. H1B and other labels are for. Exactly what the middle east, the EU and South America has been turned into? Rubble, death, destruction, a dessert full of cadavers and slaves completing suicide instead of enduring. Logic has gone out the window.

- Profits, profits and more profits with no moral or ethical obligation to source. Is that the intent?

- Death to the idea (America) of freedom by imposing servitude without concern to preserve that which made the Nation an example of what the concept of freedom provides.

Kill, kill and kill, more, more and more of everything and the appearance of cheap. From happiness to progress to the opportunity to share the Nation's abundance with the rest of the world. Kill it all? How is this laziness?

How insane is it to hire lower wage workers when more training and lower production is the end product? I differ from the notion that corporations are lazy. It is blind greed. The scorpion kills itself!

Where, how and why does Libertarian or purist Libertarians and the NAP concept agrees for this to happen? Is this blackmail? WE ARE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS! That is the poison.

BUT WE ARE SINKING. WE ARE CHOKING and drowning TO DEATH! Where does this ingredient come into play? Here, I agree with you.

Does the virus of slavery eat the source? When the Nation turns into the same place those that came through legal or illegal immigration came from. Here, long term immigrants legal or illegal will save the nation for USA natives.

Then, who is going to be able to consume that which has been created by native citizens, legal or illegal immigrants? Who is going to buy anything produced? If natives don't have work and money. If legal or illegal workers don't have money either. What gives?

This brings me to the audacity and the stupidity of the Democrat people working to convince migrants, new citizens, legal or illegal to vote for Democrats. Immigrant, legal or illegal don't forget the pain suffered to promote them to leave the country that gave them birth. And abandon their culture, friends, family and history to be absorbed and molded by this wonderful USA dream. So, voting for something or someone that would turn USA into the misery they abandoned was never a good idea.

Hence the reason so many voted for DT. Haitians, Cubans and even Latinos know and delivered DT to Americans. After all, he is locally sourced and grown. And in my opinion to preserve what's left of the dream. Something like GRATITUDE. These groups hope that, that which was "promised" during the campaign phase will be allowed to survive the dream, the "promise" phase and to preserve the Republic.

Open borders is a tool of destruction right along with the fallacy of "multi culture" imposed. The rape of a Nation. The multiculturalism marriage is a concept that must be natural not forced.

You wrote: Until I am allowed to go to Ireland on a work permit, why should Indians be allowed to come here on a work permit?

Who stops you from going to Ireland? Who stops you from working in Ireland? There's always a way. Legal or illegal. That is the American way! or the NATURAL way. AMEN for that.

I've met a few Cubans that left their island in the 60's with nothing but WILL. Restaurants, cleaning services, laundromats, day cares and many other businesses were born spontaneously and not too many ever touched any social services provided by the gov. With a little help from locals their own social services opportunities grew spontaneously. Their pride was too important to them. After all, that's all they had left to live for.

Self imposed or outsider imposed Renaissance. Is the country's soul demanding for a kick starter Renaissance?

From Wikipedia: Suicide-inducing parasitism
Certain types of parasites will cause their hosts to commit suicidal behavior.

A main example is the phylum Acanthocephala, which will direct its host to a predator so as to be eaten by the predator, their new definitive host. The parasitic worm Spinochordodes tellinii will develop in grasshoppers and crickets until it is grown, at which time it will cause its host to leap into water to its death so that the worm can reproduce in water
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_suicide

In closing. This was a delicious experiment. I love being forced to THINK.

Thank you for that.

I feel that there should be a hold on immigration from all areas except Western and Northern Europe. Taking their brightest. Do this for probably ten or more years. Let all that have been allowed into this country legally up to this point assimilate. No more low educated people that cut grass, bus tables, and hang drywall. We have enough of our own if paid enough that would do that work. Business will pay if they don't have illegals here doing that work for bottom feeder pay.
I know I am going to catch flack for this. :)